Action vs Attraction - Help Needed!

[Chris]

Okay, after a fellow co-creator mentioned they didn't get what they were specifically trying to manifest we (me?) started to talk about action vs attraction - how do we know the principles are really principles if we dont see results and, if we do, how much can be attributed to us taking positive action towards our goals rather than our thoughts attracting them. This is where my knowledge of the LOA literature falls down as I've read little and prefer to learn from seeing the 'best practice', listening to others and acting (allowing?). I'm sure some of you have the answers to such questions stored away in your brains so... gimme!! ha! I like the phrase 'meet the universe half way' and often feel that is what I'm trying to do when practicing this challenge, that I don't abandon practical action on my own behalf while I'm visualising goals. If you've had to discuss what LOA is about with someone perhaps you'd like to share your thoughts... fingers to keyboards and let me know!! Thanks in advance :)

[Chris]

"This is all about finding a way to get the feeling of what it is like to have the desired manifestation before you see evidence of it." That's a phrase I like and will remind myself of, Fred, thank you, and your description of motivated action is a good distinction - I've often encountered 'poor' motivation but the way you describe it makes all motivated action sound unaligned. Interesting :)

[Happy Me!]

Hi Chris!nThere's a discussion about Action/attraction that you might want to see. It's here: http://www.cocreatingourreality.com/group/howtosolvethehardeststeps...

Hope that will help.

[jo]

Hi Chris,

Just thought I'd add my ￥２.........

Question : Why would we not get what we specifically try to manifest?

I think Isobel provides another perspective when she wrote that we shouldn't limit the Universe in the way it can bring our desires to us.

So maybe if we want something to take on a specific form, it may take longer than if we were to 'meet the Universe halfway' and ask for the essence of what we want rather than specifying the exact form the manifestation should take. This will then open up many more ways and forms in which the Universe can work its magic to deliver our request. So for eg, instead of asking for a specific sum of money, or for just money, we can ask for what the money will bring us - more security, ability to pay bills without struggle or stress, etc.

Also, I believe that sometimes we have to let go of certain things (attitudes, beliefs, habits, certain people we know, etc) in order to receive what we ask for. Perhaps we may not be ready for what we ask for (not yet a vibrational match), so the Universe will also send us experiences to open and change us so that we are better able to allow or let it in...eventually.

Question : Thought versus Feeling - Is the lack of enthusiastic / inspired feeling an indicator that the goal is not the right one?

Emotions or feelings are created by our thoughts. Eg. when you think of someone or something that makes you happy, you get an emotional response...happiness. Thought is pure energy, emotion is energy in motion, the driving force. The more intense our emotions, the quicker the manifestation. Less intense emotions could be due to thoughts which may be limiting in some way. Hence, the need to change the old beliefs, attitudes, habits, etc in order to be in a state of allowing.

Almost1.30 am here in Tokyo, I'm not sure if I've made any sense...I hope I did... oyasumi nasai (goodnight).

[Elisa]

I have a story I would like to share with you. One day I visited my brother, suddenly my nieces and my son found a dead mouse under the coach. He was almost rotten with some worms around him. When I saw him I said oh it was disgusting and I thought that it would never happen to me because I am very neat. I went to my home and I put some rocks over the drains in case any mice wanted to come. I had never had any mice at home yet. Three days later I was sweeping the back yard when I found a dead mouse, it seemed to be the same as my brother had. It was rotten with some worms around him and the same color and the same size. I couldn't believe it. I had manifested a dead mouse. In that moment I realized if I could manifest from my fear what would if happen if I manifest from my consciouness. As you can see, We can manifest in what we focus our mind not matter it is good or bad. God Bless you!

[Jennifer]

Hi Chris, I've not been here in a while – it's great to see your discussion.

From my own experience, whether or not actions are actions you think of and persue, or if they are perfect actions presented to you toward a desired manifestation, they ARE manifestation, in my book anyway.

What has slowed me down too often though is that I doubt myself, or I doubt my first thoughts toward an action I could take for a desired manifestation. Have you encountered that, Chris? I'm not sure what the solution is to get rid of that, except that a few very-professionally-successful friends of mine have both encouraged me to just -do- a risky sort of a thing, which leads me to believe that generally the first thought you have is the one to trust. So, to follow whatever it is that occurs to you as being a path to that which you desire, most likely IS the path to follow, as, after all, it HAS occurred to you or manifested itself in your life. ... Right?

Just blabbering to myself here, as much as in conversation to you, I'm sure obviously! :)

Hope your summer's going well, Chris; great to see you again!
- Jennifer